Maloq Kartho, most often referred to as the M'kar theThrice Born or the Reborn is an ascended Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided. He was a former Astartes, serving under his Primarch following their resignation of their loyalty to the Imperium of Man and placed their faith into the malicious clutches of the Ruin ous Pow ers. During the events of the Horus Heresy, he was one of several. Be'lakor the Dark Master is the first Daemon Prince of Chaos. He is known by many names: the First Damned, the Harbinger, the One Who Heralds the Conquerors, the Foretoken and the Bearer are a just a number of examples. At the dawn of time, Be'lakor was blessed by all Chaos.

By burning the book Winston is both defying and rejecting apartheid.Apartheid also enables the regime to imprison its opponents, all in the name of segregation. Winston burns his book in front of the police. Athol fugard biography. This is in effect an act of deep disrespect to the regime and also contravenes the law because it is taking away the police's ability to correctly segregate. The system brutally segregated its citizens by color; people were white, colored or black and were strictly segregated and given varying rights according to their ethnicity.This segregation is the reason that is in prison; the passbook was carried by all citizens and denoted a person's ethnicity, and therefore enabled the authorities to segregate them.

Rn rn I happened to browse the Dark Elf armybook and on pg. 55, under Malus Darkblade it says '.within the realm of the Screaming God-Child, a twisted being sworn to Chaos Undivided; a hell place heart of the Realm of Chaos.' RnrnAnything else on this (the God-Child or the place at the heart the Realm of Chaos), since I don't remember anything about such in the daemon armybook? Or is it just one of those 'put something cool sounding in there and we'll either use it later or bury it under new fluff' thing GW tends to do?rn rn rnrn rn rn rn rn.

Then yours saying 40k is linked with famtasy. An argument that every one shouts at me for using. And if you want to use 40k for evidenve then the first deamon prince of slannesh the 'Herald of Slannesh' not to be mistaken with a herald of slannesh was a deamon prince dedicated to slannesh that wasn't born mortal and was around a few years before slannesh was 'born'rn rn rnrnnBack in the day, Daemon Prince was a catch-all title rather than a specific type of daemon. It could cover what we recognise as daemon princes (mortals raised to daemonhood) but could also apply to other daemonic entities (M'kachen, for example, is a Lord of Change, and Foulspawn was just a big chaos spawn - but both were noted as being daemon princes).rn rn rnrn rn rn rn rn.

Rn rn Did I say that? Funny, since I don't remember saying that. What that I ment was that Chaos is pretty much the same in both universes, having the very same daemons, characters, gods, etc. So would it be too much to think that they worked even a little bit in both worlds?

That is why I mentioned Lucius, because he is a mortal who possesses people in order to life forever (or actually Slaanesh rams him into people). I don't know WHFB stuff that well to say for sure if there has been any such things happening in it.rnrnrnAnd I had a read of the daemon armybook, which at no point gives any indication that daemon princes are anything but mortals turned daemon.rn rn rnrn rn rn rn rn. Rn rn The screaming god child was, as others have said before, a powerful chaos demon from the darkblade comic (a pretty darn cool comic if ya ask me), and was portrayed like a bald human in robes with a 'visage' that was totally featureless axcept for its mouth.rnHe reigned on a realm of undead and demonic subjects somewhere in the realm of chaos. Darkblade was able to escape his captivity, dont remember how exactly. I suppose he/it will eventually be featured in a darkblade future novel, as the darkblade saga is not there yet.rn rn rnrn rn rn rn rn.

Rn rn isnt Hushut a deamon prince (and demigod), never a human.rnrnChaos has millions of little gods, i remember there were items etc giving random names of lesser gods.rnrnUsed to be any powerful deamon that are favoured are called princes. Hence deamon prince.rnrnFavoured humans are elevated to deamon prince as they are favoured.rnrnNow i think your right, only elevated humans are called princes (which is a very human title).

They are demonic princes of man.rnrnrnThe screaming god-child is a lesser god. I've always believed that undivided stood for many of these lesser gods as a blanket 'counts as'.rn rn rnrn rn rn rn rn.

It's largely untouched as there is really only one advantage to not changing to anything (and this is possible), which is to gain acces to the Icon of Vengeance. Which is allright but in many cases not worth the effort.The thing though is that in the litteral sence of the word this whole book is Chaos Undivided.

As you can mix and match to your liking under the faction keyword Chaos.Lastly, a dark light, Be'lakor is the sickest Daemon Prince available to us. This can be a good datasheet to use if you want to make a sick Chaos Undivided Daemon Prince. Is chaos undivided slowly becoming an obsolete thing?

The new index books only allow daemon princes to be aligned to one of the 4 gods. Similarly, daemon engines have to choose to be aligned to one of the gods too. So what about undivided? Doesn't even seem to be an option anymore. What if you played black legion or word bearers but have to choose a daemon prince that is dedicated to one of the gods, that just doesn't work fluffwise.Thoughts on this guys?Yes and no.What GW has done is rebrand Chaos Undivided.

Where in 3.5 it was an actual Mark that meant 'everybody else', now it is supposed to be a concept that represents the coming together of the various forces of Chaos.Game wise, this would be an army that incorporates multiple marks, or none of the marks. Or in 8th edition since we don't have marks the same way we previously have, just faction keywords representing the marks, this would be an army that is either aligned to no gods, or some mixture of the gods, possibly all four.Prime example would be Abaddon, as his Mark of Chaos Ascendant is supposed to be a conglomeration of the four Marks made into one. In 8th edition, this shown by him having all four options for the keywords, which in turn allows him to be in any mono-god army.It's a matter of the game havig literally changed and there just not having been a good way of explaining it in the rulebooks while leaps and bounds were made to explain in the Black Legion, Night Lords, and Word Bearers series.Speaking of background, since that's how the daemon prjnces get explained, marks are not just voluntary. As shown with Cyrion and Marduk, the gods can just sit there and decide 'you know what? So I don't even care that you hate me, I'm branding you as my property.' Although the two times we see it with Marduk, the marks only existed long enough for him to summon daemons of Khorne and Slaanesh.So what this means for daemon princes of the not-cult Legions is that somewhere, a god saw a vested interest in them becoming a daemon prince and elevated them. And since the gods don't like sharing except where they have to, that means the daemon prince becomes attuned to that specific god, even if their preference is all or none.To me, the only exception outside of Bel'akor would be Lorgar as he was chosen by all four gods to be their prophet in the Heresy.As for Perturabo, I think he will probably end up being something like a proto-Obliterator who actually became a daemon instead of some sort of hybrid.

Or who knows, they might go back to Rogue Trader and have him be aligned with the god the Iron Warriors were aligned to back then.But yes, Chaos Undivided still exists. But because of how they've changed it and Abaddon is supposed to be the only mortal who has obtained all four Marks, that means that all of the other mortals lose out.And since they've written that Bel'akor is supposed to be the only currently known multi-Marked daemon, that means the other daemons lose out as well.Although I would like Furies to make a comeback since they're just supposed to be the various lost, unMarked souls of Chaos followers. There is no change in 8th. This is a continuation of a status quo that's been around for a while. Basically:1) there are no minor chaos powers / minor chaos gods with their own followers and their own daemons. There is only the big four.2) there is no such thing as spontaneously becoming a daemon prince.

One has to be chosen and elevated by a chaos god. Additionally, they can force this ascension on a favored follower against their will, just as they can force marks on followers against their will. Malice is in a short story written by Gav Thorpe where he is directly called a minor warp power and he is possessing a Librarian recently turned Renegade.Sorry, I got confused on stories. There's a short story by Gav Thorpe with an entity directly labeled as a 'minor warp entity' and then there is a different short story featuring the Sons of Malice in which they sacrifice eleven of their own number who braved a labyrinth to summon Malice to reality. But he is only referred to as Malice, not Malal.So Malice exists in 40K, but unless they write another short story, it is unclear whether it is the Malal/Malice of old, or if it is meant to be a new version of the same thing.Edited by Kol Saresk, 27 June 2017 - 04:34 AM. I don't think you could have a daemon Prince that was undivided in 7th unless you had a unmarked champion roll big on Phil Kelly's chart of misfortune, which wasn't super common until the Traitors hate supplement (which was very cool and made that stupid chart fun for once).But as of now, all marks are kinda useless.Why didn't GeeDub go with USRs again and have to purple prose describe every form of deepstrike?But Undivided can be seen like how the pantheistic Greeks were. I don't know about any direct statements saying he no longer exists, but that would have to have been since 2009 when the short story Labyrinth by Robert Ford was published in the Heroes of the Space Marines anthology.

If the statements were from before then, then Malice has since been retconned back into existence, just as a different incarnation.Either way, the Sons of Malice live on without him since they were published in the IA13 by Forgeworld.Edited by Kol Saresk, 27 June 2017 - 04:38 AM. Well apparently the Undivided is making slow comeback as it is mentioned in Master of Mankind, and Robbie MacNiven also mentioned on his tumblr that champions of Undivided are very powerful, but extremely rare.Like I said, it never left, it was merely rebranded. But in the process of rebranding, the game changed.Because Undivided champions would end up having to have the favor of more than one Chaos God and there is just no way to show that on the tabletop. You can do armies, but not characters.

Unless you take Abaddon.Also, I get a kick out of Be'lakor. Because the article spends so much time saying how his history is conflicted and filled with lies, and how he's an unwitting slave to the whims of the Gods with no will of his own, but he's also supposed to be actively working against the Chaos Gods by trying to sabotage Abaddon.“Hidden behind a veil of secrets and lies, it is impossible to know for sure if Be’lakor is doing the bidding of the Chaos Gods or working against them. However, his plots and plans have ultimately been instrumental in Abaddon’s ascendance to power.As the End Times hurtle towards their terrible conclusion, Be’lakor once again stands in Abaddon’s shadow. As the Warmaster embarks upon his Thirteenth Black Crusade against the Imperium, the Daemon marches with him. With hatred and jealousy guiding his hand, the Daemon Prince has worked his way close to the Warmaster, earning a place in Abaddon’s inner circle and making him believe he is the herald of the Ruinous Powers. Be’lakor is surely plotting against Abaddon in some way, seeking to undermine the victory intended for the Warmaster by the Dark Gods and claim the power and glory of conquest for himself.

Where and when this treachery will reveal itself is known only to Be’lakor himself.”Excerpt From: Workshop, Games. “Dataslate: Be’lakor, The Dark Master (eBook Edition).” Games Workshop Ltd, 2013-11-29. IBooks.This material may be protected by copyright.Check out this book on the iBooks Store. Honestly, sabotaging Abaddon isn't exactly against the interests of the chaos gods. They're in the same place with him that they were with Horus. They need him to provide a singular mortal leader to focus their efforts to kill the Emperor/Imperium, but they've invested too much power and authority in him, to the point where he risks the balance in their great game. On the one hand, they each still harbor dreams of Abaddon choosing them over their rivals and handing them all the power that all four gods have invested in him, but on the other hand they are fearful that he might choose one of the other gods instead.

They've each foisted more and more power on him to try to sway him, pushing their rivals to do the same, but that's just made the situation worse. And they're beginning to realize that if he ever succeeded in killing the emperor, it wouldn't mean an end to the empire, it would just mean a new empire with a new emperor, potentially even more dangerous than the last due to the powers they gave him.Every chaos god at this point wants Abaddon dead only slightly less then they need him to succeed, but no one of them can afford to act against him individually, lest he turn the power of the rest of the pantheon against them. So here comes Be'Lakor, thinking he's acting independently when really he's just acting out the chaos gods' unspoken, likely even unthought desire to betray their own champion. But they still need Abaddon to command their combined forces long enough to break through to Terra and kill the Emperor before they turn on him, and hey would you look at that, it just so happens the Shadowlord only plans to to betray Abaddon in the last possible moment once victory is already achieved.Like every other daemon prince, Be'Lakor's free will is a lie. He puts up a better front than most, what with motivations coming from and pushing him in four different directions, but even so.